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The Chase Doesn't Seem Like Such a Great Idea Right Now

09/30/09

Permalink 09:14:33 am, by Ed Coombs Email , 862 words, 948 views   English (US)
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The Chase Doesn't Seem Like Such a Great Idea Right Now

Jimmie Johnson’s history in the chase doesn’t really need to be updated does it? Of course, on paper, he is the strongest candidate to win this thing. Only Johnson, Kurt Busch and Tony Stewart have won in this new format established in 2004 and I am beginning to wonder if NASCAR’s idea to make the championship more exciting has blown up in their face.
Remember after the fall Richmond race in 2003 Matt Kenseth had a 418 point lead over Dale Earnhardt Jr.? Remember how Kenseth only had one win in 2003, yet he still won the championship? Does anyone recall how many points he won the championship by and who came in second (the NEVER do)? The runner up for the last Winston Cup was Jimmie Johnson, who lost by a mere 90 points with 3 wins. Ryan Newman had the most wins in 2003 with eight, but finished 6th in the final standings.
So, with a new sponsor (Nextel – Sprint) coming on board in 2004 NASCAR decided to change the format to a 10 race playoff. They tinkered with how points were awarded for wins and how many get to participate (initially only 10 drivers made the chase) but overall they have touted this as exciting. And exciting it was, in 2004. After that there really has not been any excitement because Johnson has done what was necessary for that No. 48 bunch to win it.
So, with Jimmie Johnson winning the Sprint Cup race in Dover this weekend the following stories were found on the internet:

“Johnson Serves Notice with Dover Victory”; “So, can anybody beat Jimmie Johnson and Chad Knaus? Better bring your A-plus game to Kansas”; “Johnson leaves the rest with that sinking feeling”; “It’s Johnson’s title to lose”

There are already people who believe that the 2009 edition of Chase for the Sprint Cup is already over because of Johnson’s dominance at Dover. However, many of the participants don’t agree just yet.

Current points leader Mark Martin said after the race, “We missed it just a little, little bit.” He then addressed how he wanted things to work when he made the move the Hendrick Motorsports this season. He wondered aloud if his contributions helped the No. 48 car. “I certainly it would make me very proud if something I said helped them,” Martin said. “Don’t forget, you know, that was one of my major goals when they brought me in. I wanted to be able to make a contribution to Hendrick Motorsports. I hoped I might get a win, but I definitely wanted to at least be useful.”
Martin then put his team mate on notice while conceding how good he is. “So we’re going to race them,” Martin said. “We’re going to race our guts out no matter where he we wind up. And no matter who they are.”
Then he added about Johnson, “I’m pretty sure that the dude’s Superman. And, you know, I have had the opportunity to see up close. I’m telling you, I see why he is so successful. I see why. He works harder at it than anybody else, I think, on the circuit.”
After the race Johnson was asked if he hoped that everyone else felt like they were defeated, like it was already a foregone conclusion. Johnson said, “I know some teams are motivated by things like this where we don’t perform (like at New Hampshire?) and come back the following week and step up. Some people it can affect them in a way where it’s helpful. I really don’t think about those things.”
Johnson admitted to paying attention to things other than his race car in the past saying, “I see guys get so worried about what other people think, what other people say and spend a lot of time in those areas. That’s not what works for me. I tried to play some of those games in 2005 with Tony Stewart. It didn’t workout for me. Since that day I realized I just need to run my race, put blinders on. Don’t watch television. Don’t watch or read any of the trade papers, magazines. Just ignore, ignore, ignore, and focus on my world and what’s going on with my race car. That’s what I’ll do through the rest of the chase.”
Going into the chase there were stories of how perhaps Johnson and his crew were not as strong as they had been in past years. Perhaps they could be beat. Right now pundits have eliminated half the ‘chasers’ from hope of winning it. I would say to just wait a minute, agree with Mark Martin that we’re 20% through this chase. But if Johnson goes on a top – 5 tear this thing could be over before we hit Lowes Motor Speedway next month. It’s something NASCAR doesn’t want to happen but people could care less if Johnson makes history this year, they need a reason to watch it, either from their seats in the grandstands or from their living room. Johnson taking everyone to school in 2009 might mean NASCAR gives him ‘day old tires’ to race on during the 2010 chase.

I wonder what is getting said behind closed doors in Daytona Beach now.

8 comments

Comment from: ginger [Visitor] Email
I don't know what is being said in Daytona, but I know what the fans are feeling. Nascar has become like one of the Wall Street CEOs. They only care about the fans where money is the factor. Neither do they care about the drivers. They will do and say whatever it takes to keep the drivers and fans in line while they fill their coffers. It's their ball field, their ball/bat, their tracks, their rules (the ones written in pencil), their interpretation of the rules, and if the drivers don't like it they can leave. Any organization that has a complete choke hold on its' participants like Nascar has becomes a sham. Brian has seen to that. Having been involved with Nascar since its inception, it is a heartbreaking experience to realize that something you've treasured for all those years has evolved into a caricature of it's old self.

Ed's Response : Ginger- In any sport there are rules, interpretations, fields of play, etc. I always wondered why some act as if it is a public commodity, clearly its not. Its a business. What I wonder is where has the luster gone? Remember, just a few short years ago NASCAR was the up and coming sport.

My point is that if Johnson runs away with this thing it is going to hurt NASCAR more than help it.

Thanks for your comments...

PermalinkPermalink 09/30/09 @ 13:16
Comment from: CANUCME [Visitor] Email
ironic isn’t it? the chase was forced down our throats as a solution to stale championship battles. there were a few years where the title was locked up with a whole 3 races to go and something needed to be done. now with 8 to go the media and many fans have already given the title to the 48. as if the failing tv ratings and empty seats at the track aren’t enough to show that this chase format is a failure they are crowning a champion with almost a quarter of the season left to run.

i personally take great joy in watching this whole mess unfold. nascar is getting exactly what it deserves. they completed alienated their long time fans with all of this nonsense chasing a younger, more hip, west coast demographic. so they lured those fans in for a couple of years and now just as many of us predicted those fans have moved on to the next flavor of the month. the only thing worse, i guess, to the new generation fan than 1 guy wrapping up a title with 3 to go is the same guy going on a 10 race hot streak year after year to win the crown. people are bored with it. tired of it.




the sad part is that lost in all of this bullshit is the race. as mark martin has pointed out more than once this year…. it should really all be about the race. every weekend there is a race and nobody seems to care because they are so wrapped up in a contrived points battle. i guess that is what bothers me the most. the racing and competition has taken a back seat to story lines and entertainment.


Ed's response -
CANUME- look at your email addy... I hope you have not given up... I hope Martin wins this thing (well actually I picked Jeff Gordon in the media game).

I left your post unedited because it makes a great point, it should be all about the race. Maybe he can do this. Maybe Johnson has a couple sub par runs and this thing tightens up... All I know is that there's a pile of people yelling:


I TOLD YOU SO!!!
PermalinkPermalink 09/30/09 @ 13:46
Comment from: CANUCME [Visitor] Email
oh don't you worry. there is no way i am giving up until the end. i was brought into this sport back in 1994 thanks to the publicity of the earnhardt/gordon rivalry. once i became hooked in 1994 something about mark martin just clicked with me and i have been living and dying with him every weekend since. so you would think as a huge mark martin fan i would be a fan of this chase. i mean afterall it has given mark probably his best chance in almost 2 decades to win a championship. well i don't. actually i can't stand it. it's like jeff gordon has said. if he can win a chase he won't consider it his 5th title. he will view it as 4 plus 1. if you can read between the lines you will understand that jeff sees this whole thing as entertainment and not the true measure of a champion. the champion is the guy who can make it through all 4 plate races, all the short tracks, the road courses and then be able to hold his own on the 1-1/2 milers. a guy who can put together a 10 race run simply doesn't impress me.

if mark can somehow win the title this year i will be thrilled and may even shed a tear. the guy deserves it. but deep down inside it just wont be the same had he been able to seal the deal with the old points format.

Ed's Response- Mark Martin has always been a racer first. He's a pretty decent guy as well.

I don't tell a lot of people but I'm a Gordon fan and this chase format kills me as a fan. The man is truly a 6 time champion, just one away from the King and Earnhardt. This whole chase deal doesn't fit him as well as others...
PermalinkPermalink 09/30/09 @ 14:50
Comment from: Ken [Visitor] Email
Ed, the chase was never a good idea.


Ed's Response- Ken- Sometimes change is good- until someone finds a way to keep up with the 48 bunch its all a moot point...
PermalinkPermalink 09/30/09 @ 15:00
Comment from: Rene [Visitor] Email
I have been a race fan for many years and never thought I would say that the "racing is boring".

The beginning of the end began with the multi-car era. The IROC series is gone and NASCAR will be next. What a shame.

Ed's Repsonse - Look, the 'good old days' would see 3 cars on the lead lap at Dover and Bristol. How come no one seems to remember that??
PermalinkPermalink 09/30/09 @ 16:12
Comment from: Keith [Visitor] Email
Ed I think Gordon would have 5 but not 6 the year Kurt Busch won would of been his but the first one Jimmie won Jimmie had such a big lead in August and he blew up a couple of times and Gordon got close. According to interviews I heard of Rick Hendrick he even said they were testing new engine packages for the Chase because they had clinched a spot and had nothing to lose and they never would of did it otherwise.

Ed's Response - Keith- Thanks for commenting. Gordon would have won in 2004 and 2007 under the old points. I was surprised to see that many former champions would not be champions if they ran under the chase system... I recall seeing a study at my good friend Jayski's
PermalinkPermalink 09/30/09 @ 18:10
Comment from: SB [Visitor] Email
Ed, you are right that many races in the 'old days' may not have had many cars on the lead lap by the end...but back then they weren't giving charity laps back at every caution, either. What's missing these days is passion. It was different when winning meant the difference between eating that week or not. Pretending the last 10 races on the schedule (with no regard for the quality or diversity of the tracks) just isn't the same as being able to put together an entire 36 race season. Points racing and playing it safe changes the game entirely. And lately, that's what nascar is...a game.


Ed's Response - Hey there- I think you nailed it, we need some passion in this sport. However, every guy out there points races... I know how to motivate them, MONEY- now if the winner got half the purse and the top 12 shared 90% of it, the rest would barely get entry fees... isn't that how we run a lot of local tracks??
PermalinkPermalink 09/30/09 @ 20:54
Ed, I think Rene's point was that previous to Roush, (from a Ford fan), that there were dozens of teams with one or two cars. Now there are truly only a handful of teams (4 cars teams plus the "oartnerships" and then those that have a dream and little chance.

Yes in the past there were fewer cars on the lead lap. However also in the past NASCAR did not intervene nearly as much with various cautions and rules that are goofy. Hence, in reality there is a similar number of contending cars on a consistent race to race basis with the ocassional feel good story (Petty top 10's and a couple wins with the 9, but still the same issue as before the best teams still are the one vying for the victory. It is just that there are fewer best teams and as such not as much of a story. DO you think Raymond Beedle wins a CUP even with Rusty Wallace driving today compared with Hendrick? How about Kluwicki winning? Stewart's team is not and should never be compared to that of Alan's. They did it themselves and was not just a satelite team of a powerhouse. Yes, Stewart is doing better than Haas before but again has the support and funding for better people. I also believe that Hendrick is, was at least, supplying better equipment now then to Hass before.

Bakc to the point though, there are more cars on the lead lap to due more caution flags for fanthom or even real debris that would not have been throw before as it would be on the apron or way out of the racing groove thus no caution. Also, a car lightly smacking the wall would typically not bring out a caution "in the old days". I watch several races on Classic that prove the point. Yes there may be more cars on the lead lap now but how many of them get gifted back onto the leap lap with late race caution flags for "questionable" cautions?

Ed's Response- Brian, you make some decent points, however, we can't have it both ways. You can't want side by side racing yet not have a way to get that done. Phantom cautions have been about since inception of racing. I'm not sure why people think that watching a car go fast, in circles, for 500 miles is supposed to be a 4 hour orgasm....
PermalinkPermalink 10/01/09 @ 12:18

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